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small C compiler that will run on Vista
I want to do some simple programming at home on my new Vista PC. Its to automate moving .AAC files to my phone's mercury card. (Nokia's application only works with USB cable or bluetooth). So the application has to pick up a .m3u playlist, create any needed directories on the memory card and copy across the .AAC files. It also needs to delete the files and empty directories from the memory card when I want to remove a playlist. The only languages I have on it are .BAT and Open Office Basic. I've got a very old version of Visual C++ (1.0!) that wont run on XP let alone Vista. I've got Suns Java development environment but I'm a newbie to java & I dont want to have a web page & server just to copy files around on my PC. Is there a small Free C compiler I can download somewhere? Something that will handle ANSI C so I can generate an .exe will do fine. I like the Idea of CygWin but thats too big a download for me. So anything under 40Mb would be good. Jeremy Thomson
On May 30, 9:52 am, Jeremy Thomson <panzer@gmail.com> wrote:
> I want to do some simple programming at home on my new Vista PC. > Its to automate moving .AAC files to my phone's mercury card. > (Nokia's application only works with USB cable or bluetooth). > So the application has to pick up a .m3u playlist, create any needed > directories > on the memory card and copy across the .AAC files. It also needs to > delete > the files and empty directories from the memory card when I want to > remove a playlist. > The only languages I have on it are .BAT and Open Office Basic. > I've got a very old version of Visual C++ (1.0!) that wont run on XP > let alone Vista. > I've got Suns Java development environment but I'm a newbie to java & > I dont want > to have a web page & server just to copy files around on my PC. > Is there a small Free C compiler I can download somewhere? > Something that will handle ANSI C so I can generate an .exe will do > fine. > I like the Idea of CygWin but thats too big a download for me. > So anything under 40Mb would be good.
Not sure, but can you please check if DevCpp works on Vista. It may suit your need. Thanks
Jeremy Thomson wrote: > I want to do some simple programming at home on my new Vista PC. > Its to automate moving .AAC files to my phone's mercury card. > (Nokia's application only works with USB cable or bluetooth). > So the application has to pick up a .m3u playlist, create any needed > directories > on the memory card and copy across the .AAC files. It also needs to > delete > the files and empty directories from the memory card when I want to > remove a playlist. > The only languages I have on it are .BAT and Open Office Basic. > I've got a very old version of Visual C++ (1.0!) that wont run on XP > let alone Vista. > I've got Suns Java development environment but I'm a newbie to java & > I dont want > to have a web page & server just to copy files around on my PC. > Is there a small Free C compiler I can download somewhere? > Something that will handle ANSI C so I can generate an .exe will do > fine. > I like the Idea of CygWin but thats too big a download for me. > So anything under 40Mb would be good. > Jeremy Thomson
lcc-win32 download is 5.4MB only. Includes compiler, project management debugger and IDE. http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~lcc-win32. Runs under vista, but generates 32 Bit code jacob
Jeremy Thomson said: <snip> > Is there a small Free C compiler I can download somewhere?
http://www.cpax.org.uk/prg/portable/c/resources.php contains a long list of free C compilers. That list used to be a little longer, but alas, one of the compilers is maintained by someone who seemed to me to be more determined to plug his product here in comp.lang.c than he was to fix its bugs (or indeed to learn C), so I removed that particular compiler from the list. I wouldn't dream of mentioning his name, of course, but you can probably spot him easily enough yourself. -- Richard Heathfield "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29/7/1999 http://www.cpax.org.uk email: rjh at the above domain, - www.
Richard Heathfield wrote: > Jeremy Thomson said: > <snip> >> Is there a small Free C compiler I can download somewhere? > http://www.cpax.org.uk/prg/portable/c/resources.php contains a long list > of free C compilers. > That list used to be a little longer, but alas, one of the compilers is > maintained by someone who seemed to me to be more determined to plug > his product here in comp.lang.c than he was to fix its bugs (or indeed > to learn C), so I removed that particular compiler from the list. > I wouldn't dream of mentioning his name, of course, but you can probably > spot him easily enough yourself.
Meow. -- Ian Collins.
blufox wrote: > On May 30, 9:52 am, Jeremy Thomson <panzer @gmail.com> wrote: ... snip ... >> Is there a small Free C compiler I can download somewhere? >> Something that will handle ANSI C so I can generate an .exe will >> do fine. >> I like the Idea of CygWin but thats too big a download for me. >> So anything under 40Mb would be good. > Not sure, but can you please check if DevCpp works on Vista. > It may suit your need.
Try DJGPP 2.04, at <http://www.delorie.com> You should also consider dumping Vista for Ubuntu (or other Linux), which are free. All the Linux distributions come with gcc, the GNU compiler. Read the following links for some Vista faults.. -- <http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt> <http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/423> <http://www.aaxnet.com/editor/edit043.html> <http://kadaitcha.cx/vista/dogsbreakfast/index.html> cbfalconer at maineline dot net -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
CBFalconer wrote: > blufox wrote: >> On May 30, 9:52 am, Jeremy Thomson <panzer @gmail.com> wrote: > .... snip ... >>> Is there a small Free C compiler I can download somewhere? >>> Something that will handle ANSI C so I can generate an .exe will >>> do fine. >>> I like the Idea of CygWin but thats too big a download for me. >>> So anything under 40Mb would be good. >> Not sure, but can you please check if DevCpp works on Vista. >> It may suit your need. > Try DJGPP 2.04, at <http://www.delorie.com> > You should also consider dumping Vista for Ubuntu (or other Linux), > which are free. All the Linux distributions come with gcc, the GNU > compiler. Read the following links for some Vista faults..
s/Linux/Linux, Solaris or a BSD/ -- Ian Collins.
Jeremy Thomson wrote: > I've got a very old version of Visual C++ (1.0!) that wont run on XP > let alone Vista.
http://www.thefreecountry.com/compilers/cpp.shtml which include Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 Express. -- Tor <torust [at] online [dot] no>
>Jeremy Thomson wrote: >> I've got a very old version of Visual C++ (1.0!) that wont run on XP >> let alone Vista.
Given Vista's extensive resource requirements, which I assume you're providing, why are you seeking a *small* C compiler? -- Chris.
In article <f3jrdn$m1@enyo.uwa.edu.au>, Chris McDonald <c@csse.uwa.edu.au> wrote: >Given Vista's extensive resource requirements, which I assume you're >providing, why are you seeking a *small* C compiler?
Presumably that's all there's room left for. -- Richard -- "Consideration shall be given to the need for as many as 32 characters in some alphabets" - X3.4, 1963.
In article <5c50fsFmsdi@mid.individual.net>, Ian Collins <ian-n@hotmail.com> wrote: ... >> You should also consider dumping Vista for Ubuntu (or other Linux), >> which are free. All the Linux distributions come with gcc, the GNU >> compiler. Read the following links for some Vista faults.. >s/Linux/Linux, Solaris or a BSD/
Or, let's keep it simple, and just say: s/Linux/XP or any earlier version of Windows, before the forces of evil *reall* took over/
On May 31, 12:41 am, rich@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) wrote: > In article <f3jrdn$m1 @enyo.uwa.edu.au>, > Chris McDonald <c @csse.uwa.edu.au> wrote: > >Given Vista's extensive resource requirements, which I assume you're > >providing, why are you seeking a *small* C compiler? > Presumably that's all there's room left for. > -- Richard > -- > "Consideration shall be given to the need for as many as 32 characters > in some alphabets" - X3.4, 1963.
ROTFL. No I still have 200GB left. I dont have an internet connection at home, could use someone elses dialup but prefer to steal bandwidth from my employer. As long as its not too much bandwith. Jeremy Thomson
On May 30, 4:59 pm, blufox <2500.prad@gmail.com> wrote: > Not sure, but can you please check if DevCpp works on Vista. > It may suit your need. > Thanks
Yes DevCpp works. At least it compiles the example programs. Jeremy Thomson
On May 30, 6:24 pm, jacob navia <j@jacob.remcomp.fr> wrote: > lcc-win32 download is 5.4MB only. > Includes compiler, project management debugger and IDE.http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~lcc-win32. Runs under > vista, but generates 32 Bit code > jacob
Thanks I've downloaded it & compiled some of the examples so seems to be working. Had a hassle with the OpenGL demo. Needed an executable called cc1 when wasnt in the bin directory but in (if I remember) lib\lcc. I copied the three .exes into bin and then OpenGL demo compiled. Must find out how to set the PATH in Vista, everythings moved. The other hassle was getting some docs on the Win32Api. Theres a cuple of links on the lcc site. One to a application that doesnt run on Vista because of a missing DLL (Bvrun something). The other is a Win32.hlp file that doesnt load because Vista has a WinHlp32.exe that just says old help files arent supported. I cant override WinHlp32.exe from my XP because I cant set the secuiry access to anything in \Windows. Linux just looks better and better. Jeremy Thomson
CBFalconer <cbfalco @yahoo.com> writes: > blufox wrote: >> On May 30, 9:52 am, Jeremy Thomson <panzer @gmail.com> wrote: > ... snip ... >>> Is there a small Free C compiler I can download somewhere? >>> Something that will handle ANSI C so I can generate an .exe will >>> do fine. >>> I like the Idea of CygWin but thats too big a download for me. >>> So anything under 40Mb would be good. >> Not sure, but can you please check if DevCpp works on Vista. >> It may suit your need. > Try DJGPP 2.04, at <http://www.delorie.com> > You should also consider dumping Vista for Ubuntu (or other Linux), > which are free. All the Linux distributions come with gcc, the GNU > compiler. Read the following links for some Vista faults..
Your pimping of other OSs is off topic and not discussed here. You should know that. You spend enough time telling other people what *is* on topic in this NG that I would have thought you would know that. Out of 6 posts of yours only one actually even tried to help - and you weren't even very good in that case. -- What's up with your signature?
Does anyone else detect a hint of irony in slagging off Chuck for pimping other operating systems while quoting his signature links? -- Ian Collins.
Ian Collins <ian-n @hotmail.com> writes: > Richard wrote: >> CBFalconer <cbfalco @yahoo.com> writes: >>> You should also consider dumping Vista for Ubuntu (or other Linux), >>> which are free. All the Linux distributions come with gcc, the GNU >>> compiler. Read the following links for some Vista faults.. >> Your pimping of other OSs is off topic and not discussed here. You >> should know that. You spend enough time telling other people >> what *is* on topic in this NG that I would have thought you would know >> that. Out of 6 posts of yours only one actually even tried to help - and >> you weren't even very good in that case. >>> -- >>> <http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt> >>> <http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/423> >>> <http://www.aaxnet.com/editor/edit043.html> >>> <http://kadaitcha.cx/vista/dogsbreakfast/index.html> >>> cbfalconer at maineline dot net > Does anyone else detect a hint of irony in slagging off Chuck for > pimping other operating systems while quoting his signature links?
I did ask about them - but you snipped my query. For some reason they don't get cut off like other peoples do by my newsreaders. My guess is that they are incorrectly delimited.
Richard wrote: > Ian Collins <ian-n @hotmail.com> writes: >> Richard wrote: >>> CBFalconer <cbfalco@yahoo.com> writes: >>>> You should also consider dumping Vista for Ubuntu (or other Linux), >>>> which are free. All the Linux distributions come with gcc, the GNU >>>> compiler. Read the following links for some Vista faults.. >>> Your pimping of other OSs is off topic and not discussed here. You >>> should know that. You spend enough time telling other people >>> what *is* on topic in this NG that I would have thought you would know >>> that. Out of 6 posts of yours only one actually even tried to help - and >>> you weren't even very good in that case. >>>> -- >>>> <http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt> >>>> <http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/423> >>>> <http://www.aaxnet.com/editor/edit043.html> >>>> <http://kadaitcha.cx/vista/dogsbreakfast/index.html> >>>> cbfalconer at maineline dot net >> Does anyone else detect a hint of irony in slagging off Chuck for >> pimping other operating systems while quoting his signature links? > I did ask about them - but you snipped my query. For some reason they > don't get cut off like other peoples do by my newsreaders. My guess is > that they are incorrectly delimited.
Nope I didn't snip it, I just checked and your query came after a signature delimiter! Chuck's signature was correctly delimited. -- Ian Collins.
Richard wrote: > CBFalconer <cbfalco @yahoo.com> writes: >> blufox wrote: >>> On May 30, 9:52 am, Jeremy Thomson <panzer @gmail.com> wrote: >> ... snip ... >>>> Is there a small Free C compiler I can download somewhere? >>>> Something that will handle ANSI C so I can generate an .exe will >>>> do fine... snip ... >>> Not sure, but can you please check if DevCpp works on Vista. >>> It may suit your need. >> Try DJGPP 2.04, at <http://www.delorie.com> >> You should also consider dumping Vista for Ubuntu (or other Linux), >> which are free. All the Linux distributions come with gcc, the GNU >> compiler. Read the following links for some Vista faults.. > Your pimping of other OSs is off topic and not discussed here. You > should know that. You spend enough time telling other people > what *is* on topic in this NG that I would have thought you would > know that. Out of 6 posts of yours only one actually even tried to > help - and you weren't even very good in that case.
If you study my answer with care, you will note that the OP wanted to know sources for ANSI C compilers. Each of my two paragraphs aimed him at a source. The multiple faults of Vista are covered in my sig, which is immune to "topicality" considerations. -- <http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt> <http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/423> <http://www.aaxnet.com/editor/edit043.html> <http://kadaitcha.cx/vista/dogsbreakfast/index.html> cbfalconer at maineline dot net -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
On Wed, 30 May 2007 12:41:27 +0000 (UTC), Chris McDonald <c @csse.uwa.edu.au> wrote: >>Jeremy Thomson wrote: >>> I've got a very old version of Visual C++ (1.0!) that wont run on XP >>> let alone Vista. >Given Vista's extensive resource requirements, which I assume you're providing, >why are you seeking a *small* C compiler?
My installation of Microsoft Visual Studio Professional 2005 consumes 2.38 GB of disk space and typically about 23 MB of RAM when running under Windows Vista. That's doesn't equate to "extensive resource requirements" in this day and age of dirt-cheap multi-100GB hard drives and Gigabytes of RAM. If you have a PC running Windows XP or Windows Vista, you can download and run Visual Studio 2005 Express edition for free. The IDE (editor, compiler, linker, debugger, and much more) is worth checking out. -- jay http://www.microsoft.com/vista/ http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/visualc/
Richard said: <snip> > Your pimping of other OSs is off topic and not discussed here. You > should know that. You spend enough time telling other people > what *is* on topic in this NG that I would have thought you would know > that. Out of 6 posts of yours only one actually even tried to help - > and you weren't even very good in that case.
In comp.lang.c, if you're bright, you can - to a certain extent - get away with being unpleasant. And if you're charming, you can - to a certain extent - get away with being clueless. The ideal, of course, is "bright and charming", but few manage it. Chris Torek is a fine example, however. Normally, we'll settle for one or the other, or a reasonable balance ("fairly bright, not too unpleasant"). So far, Richard, you have demonstrated many times that you can be unpleasant, but as far as I can recall you have yet to demonstrate that you're bright. Until you establish a reputation for actually knowing C and being able to help people to understand it better than they did before encountering you, the denizens of clc aren't going to pay too much attention to your sniping. You are currently losing rep points, not gaining them. (And the mixup over the sig block won't have helped you in that regard.) -- Richard Heathfield "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29/7/1999 http://www.cpax.org.uk email: rjh at the above domain, - www.
"Guru" Heathfield wrote: > Richard said: > <snip> >> Your pimping of other OSs is off topic and not discussed here. You >> should know that. You spend enough time telling other people >> what *is* on topic in this NG that I would have thought you would know >> that. Out of 6 posts of yours only one actually even tried to help - >> and you weren't even very good in that case.
This comment from Richard is perfectly correct. BUT... It is against windows and as everybody here agrees, windows users are morons by definitions. If they weren't they would be using linux obviously. > In comp.lang.c, if you're bright, you can - to a certain extent - get > away with being unpleasant. And if you're charming, you can - to a > certain extent - get away with being clueless. > The ideal, of course, is "bright and charming", but few manage it. Chris > Torek is a fine example, however. Normally, we'll settle for one or the > other, or a reasonable balance ("fairly bright, not too unpleasant"). > So far, Richard, you have demonstrated many times that you can be > unpleasant, but as far as I can recall you have yet to demonstrate that > you're bright.
Yes. To be bright in this newsgroup you have to ALWAYS be in agreement with HEATHFIELD AND CO. If not, you are breaking the rules. > Until you establish a reputation for actually knowing C > and being able to help people to understand it better than they did > before encountering you, the denizens of clc aren't going to pay too > much attention to your sniping.
Note that this individual is convinced that he speaks for the whole group, even if nobody appointed him to do that. He IS the perfect guru. > You are currently losing rep points,
And those points are distributed exclusively by heathfield. NOTE THAT! > not gaining them. (And the mixup over the sig block won't have helped > you in that regard.)
Pathetic.
jacob navia said: > To be bright in this newsgroup you have to ALWAYS be > in agreement with HEATHFIELD AND CO.
Oh, do grow up, there's a good chap. I learn far more from bright people who *disagree* with me than from those who agree. -- Richard Heathfield "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29/7/1999 http://www.cpax.org.uk email: rjh at the above domain, - www.
In article <1180500749.464365.135@a26g2000pre.googlegroups.com>, Jeremy Thomson <panzer@gmail.com> writes
>I want to do some simple programming at home on my new Vista PC. >Its to automate moving .AAC files to my phone's mercury card. >(Nokia's application only works with USB cable or bluetooth). >So the application has to pick up a .m3u playlist, create any needed >directories >on the memory card and copy across the .AAC files. It also needs to >delete >the files and empty directories from the memory card when I want to >remove a playlist. >The only languages I have on it are .BAT and Open Office Basic. >I've got a very old version of Visual C++ (1.0!) that wont run on XP >let alone Vista. >I've got Suns Java development environment but I'm a newbie to java & >I dont want >to have a web page & server just to copy files around on my PC. >Is there a small Free C compiler I can download somewhere? >Something that will handle ANSI C so I can generate an .exe will do >fine. >I like the Idea of CygWin but thats too big a download for me. >So anything under 40Mb would be good. >Jeremy Thomson
There is really only one sensible solution for this (and I hate to admitt it) that is the FREE Microsoft VC++ Express whichj you can download for free from MS. It will work well with the MS environment and will probably have examples to start you on your way. Several magazines have given these compilers away on the front cover so you may not even have to download it. -- \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills Staffs England /\/\/\/\/ /\/\/ c@phaedsys.org www.phaedsys.org \/\/\ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
Jeremy Thomson wrote: > I want to do some simple programming at home on my new Vista PC. > Its to automate moving .AAC files to my phone's mercury card. > (Nokia's application only works with USB cable or bluetooth). > So the application has to pick up a .m3u playlist, create any needed > directories > on the memory card and copy across the .AAC files. It also needs to > delete > the files and empty directories from the memory card when I want to > remove a playlist. > The only languages I have on it are .BAT and Open Office Basic. > I've got a very old version of Visual C++ (1.0!) that wont run on XP > let alone Vista. > I've got Suns Java development environment but I'm a newbie to java & > I dont want > to have a web page & server just to copy files around on my PC. > Is there a small Free C compiler I can download somewhere? > Something that will handle ANSI C so I can generate an .exe will do > fine. > I like the Idea of CygWin but thats too big a download for me. > So anything under 40Mb would be good. > Jeremy Thomson
I'm wondering if C is the right tool for your task?
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