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This newsgroup only has a few posts per day.
where is the liveliest perl talk these days?
I'm a long-time (since about '92) perl user
and need some help here and there...

Greg Benjamin wrote:
> This newsgroup only has a few posts per day.

While that may be true the past week, clpmisc is usually a high traffic
newsgroup.

> where is the liveliest perl talk these days?

It's here. Among other places.

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On 2007-05-29, Greg Benjamin <gregben_d@yahoo.com> wrote:

> This newsgroup only has a few posts per day.

Over a weekend, and a US holiday weekend, what do you expect?
During the regular work week this newsgroup is quite active...

> where is the liveliest perl talk these days?
> I'm a long-time (since about '92) perl user
> and need some help here and there...

...but why do you want the ''liveliest'' Perl discussion anyway?
Your question, or a good answer, might get lost in the noise.

My suggestion is to simply post your questions here, and if
a large proportion go unanswered to your satisfaction, find
someplace else.  Be sure to read the Posting Guidelines before
posting a Perl question.

--keith

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On Tue, 29 May 2007 04:51:14 +0200, Gunnar Hjalmarsson

<nore@gunnar.cc> wrote:
>> This newsgroup only has a few posts per day.

>While that may be true the past week, clpmisc is usually a high traffic
>newsgroup.

Well, it seems to me that it's been relatively slow for a few weeks. I
don't mind. Generally when it gets really high it is because of flames
or pointless meta-rants or similar stuff.

Michele
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On Tue, 29 May 2007 01:49:16 GMT, "Greg Benjamin"

<gregben_d@yahoo.com> wrote:
>This newsgroup only has a few posts per day.
>where is the liveliest perl talk these days?
>I'm a long-time (since about '92) perl user
>and need some help here and there...

I don't thing that traffic activity is the most relevant parameter you
should take into account. It's more a matter of the "philosophy" of
the media. For example, this is *not* a forum at all, it's a
newsgroup. Now, ng's *are* a kind of forum in the widest sense of the
word, but with the latter term people generally mean web-based fora.
By contrast USENET even predates the web itself. So, even if thing
change over time, the respective cultures tend to differ. For example
the typical mentality here is one that occasionally hits on n00bz
nerves, since they perceive it to be overly "elitist" and aimed at
bashing people or boasting rather than actually helping. This is not
the case, but they think so anyway, because they grew up in different
(real and virtual) environments. Some other people would rather prefer
a chat than a ng, a forum or a mailing list. It wholly depends on
one's aptitude. Said this, personally I'm both here and in PerlMonks
which is a very active web based Perl forum with a good reputation.

HTH,
Michele
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Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote:
>Greg Benjamin wrote:
>> This newsgroup only has a few posts per day.

>While that may be true the past week, clpmisc is usually a high traffic
>newsgroup.

It's slow compared to what it was aroundn 2000, when it got 300 messages
a day. Now the average floats areound 50/day.

>> where is the liveliest perl talk these days?

>It's here. Among other places.

Perlmonks (http://perlmonks.org) is a web based forum, and I've been
told Perl related IRC chat activity is very high these days, though I
don't use it myself.

--
        Bart.

In article <glvn53589oe3fog9v7405pr7mer7jl7@4ax.com>,
 Michele Dondi <bik.m@tiscalinet.it> wrote:

The generally snotty tone of this forum is not because it's a newsgroup.
It's because people on this forum like to feel superior to others and
just don't like to be helpful to people asking innocent but somewhat
off-topic questions.

It's a real turnoff. That's why the message volume is plummeting here,
and to some extent, it's why Perl is dying as a viable commercial
language.

I've been coding in Perl since 1992 and reading these newsgroups since
1995; so flame away if it makes you feel better.

On Wed, 30 May 2007 21:35:06 -0700, fishfry

<BLOCKSPAMfish@your-mailbox.com> wrote:
>The generally snotty tone of this forum is not because it's a newsgroup.
>It's because people on this forum like to feel superior to others and
>just don't like to be helpful to people asking innocent but somewhat
>off-topic questions.

I think you're too mild: we're a crowd of f**king b**tards who like to
humiliate people asking about webserver configuration by sending them
to newsgroups where people is likely to know better. I can tell you
it's a real pita when some of those idiots accidentally asks a
*perfectly* on topic, *perfectly* clear, *perfectly* polite question:
you may even feel compelled to provide real help and you start
thinkering hard how you could bash him or her anyway, without ever
finding a way. Eventually, they even *thank* you: believe me, it's a
really disgusting sensation...

>It's a real turnoff. That's why the message volume is plummeting here,
>and to some extent, it's why Perl is dying as a viable commercial
>language.

Oh yeah, baby! clpmisc and the decline of Perl...

In fact the untold secret is that none of the regulars here is really
a Perl programmer: Java, Python, Ruby, whatever... but not Perl.
Indeed they tried it a few years ago, learnt one or two things and got
to hate it so much as to conjure up joining in clpmisc to actively
work against it!

>I've been coding in Perl since 1992 and reading these newsgroups since
>1995; so flame away if it makes you feel better.

Yep: you peni^Wtext editor is shorte^Wuglier than mine!

Michele
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On 2007-05-31, Michele Dondi <bik.m@tiscalinet.it> wrote:

> Oh yeah, baby! clpmisc and the decline of Perl...

Perl, like Slackware, is dead.  Long live Perl!

--keith

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