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Off Topic: What is the good book to learn Python ?
I am new to Python but these 2 have been great resources, so far: http://diveintopython.org/toc/index.html http://docs.python.org/tut/
On May 30, 1:25 pm, Katie Tam <katie@gmail.com> wrote: Depends on what you like. For easy stuff that's fun, I liked "Python Programming for the Beginner" by Dawson as it let you create real applications (mostly silly games). "Beginning Python" by Hetland and the Python for Dummies book are both good. Hetland's goes over everything you'd need to know and it has some pretty cool, albeit complex examples in the last few chapters. If you want good exercises to go with what you learned in the book, I'd have to recommend "Python Programming: And Introduction to Computer Science" by Zelle. It's the only book I've seen with good exercises (or any exercises) at the end. Most don't have them. Once you're through all that wonderfulness, I would recommend "Python Programming 3rd Ed." by Lutz and/or "Core Python Programming" by Chun for excellent references. If you have any questions about any of these books let me know. I've read all of them (except for Lutz's...only halfway done with it). Mike
In my opinion, "Beginning Python: From Novice to Professional" is a horrible book. I constantly have to consult "Learning Python(2nd ed.) to clear up all the blunders in Beginning Python. In addition, Learning Python(2nd ed) has exercises and Beginning Python doesn't. So I would recommend "Learning Python(2nd ed)".
Katie Tam wrote: > I am new to this filed and begin to learn this langague. Can you tell > me the good books to start with ?
My favorite is the O'Reilly jython book. This book is specifically about the python interpreter written in java but I have always found it to be a well written explanation of python basics in general.
On 30 May 2007 11:25:22 -0700, Katie Tam <katie@gmail.com> wrote: If you're experienced with other programming languages, I'd recommend python in a nutshell, or perhaps programming python. I personally just skimmed through the online tutorial, and kept the library and api references handy. Orielly publishers almost always have excellent books on learning new programming languages. I would also recommend to stay away from any "for dummies" or "in x (hours/days)" books. They can be decent introductory material, but unless you are really really new to programming, you probably wouldn't be getting enough information to justify the cost of the book (and a lot of times they have a lot of bad practices in them) Good luck!
In article <mailman.8439.1180569067.32031.python-l@python.org>, kaens <apatheticagnos @gmail.com> wrote: >I would also recommend to stay away from any "for dummies" or "in x >(hours/days)" books. They can be decent introductory material, but >unless you are really really new to programming, you probably wouldn't >be getting enough information to justify the cost of the book (and a >lot of times they have a lot of bad practices in them)
Maybe you should try actually reading _Python for Dummies_. ;-) -- Aahz (a@pythoncraft.com) <*> http://www.pythoncraft.com/ "as long as we like the same operating system, things are cool." --piranha
Here are some excellent online books and tutorials to get started with: http://www.python.org/doc/tut/ http://www.ibiblio.org/obp/thinkCSpy/ http://www.python.org/topics/learn/prog.html http://www.python.org/topics/learn/non-prog.html http://docs.python.org/lib/ http://diveintopython.org/ http://gnosis.cx/TPiP/ http://rox.sourceforge.net/basic_python.html Here are some lists of books you can read online: http://www.techbooksforfree.com/perlpython.shtml http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Programming:Python http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonBooks Some books: Byte of Python - online: http://www.byteofpython.info/files/120/byteofpython_120.pdf Quick Tour of Python - online: http://stsdas.stsci.edu/pyraf/doc/python_quick_tour/python_quick_tour... Python in Nutshell - online: http://files.nixp.ru/books/programming/python/O%27Reilly%20--%20Pytho... Python Standard Library - online: http://effbot.org/zone/librarybook-index.htm Python tutorial - online: http://www.ensta.fr/~enstar/doc/python/Python-Docs-2.4-PDF/tut.pdf
kaens wrote: > On 30 May 2007 11:25:22 -0700, Katie Tam <katie @gmail.com> wrote: >> I am new to this filed and begin to learn this langague. Can you tell >> me the good books to start with ? >> Katie Tam >> Network administrator >> http://www.linkwaves.com/main.asp >> http://www.linkwaves.com >> -- >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > If you're experienced with other programming languages, I'd recommend > python in a nutshell, or perhaps programming python. I personally just > skimmed through the online tutorial, and kept the library and api > references handy. > Orielly publishers almost always have excellent books on learning new > programming languages. > I would also recommend to stay away from any "for dummies" or "in x > (hours/days)" books. They can be decent introductory material, but > unless you are really really new to programming, you probably wouldn't > be getting enough information to justify the cost of the book (and a > lot of times they have a lot of bad practices in them) > Good luck!
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On 30 May 2007 17:28:39 -0700, Aahz <a@pythoncraft.com> wrote:
> In article <mailman.8439.1180569067.32031.python-l @python.org>, > kaens <apatheticagnos @gmail.com> wrote: > >I would also recommend to stay away from any "for dummies" or "in x > >(hours/days)" books. They can be decent introductory material, but > >unless you are really really new to programming, you probably wouldn't > >be getting enough information to justify the cost of the book (and a > >lot of times they have a lot of bad practices in them) > Maybe you should try actually reading _Python for Dummies_. ;-) > -- > Aahz (a@pythoncraft.com) <*> http://www.pythoncraft.com/ > "as long as we like the same operating system, things are cool." --piranha > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
I haven't read it, maybe I will. I have just noticed that the "for dummies" books tend to be a bit lacking. That's just my opinion, of course.
In article <mailman.8443.1180577667.32031.python-l@python.org>, kaens <apatheticagnos @gmail.com> wrote: >On 30 May 2007 17:28:39 -0700, Aahz <a @pythoncraft.com> wrote: >> In article <mailman.8439.1180569067.32031.python-l @python.org>, >> kaens <apatheticagnos @gmail.com> wrote: >>>I would also recommend to stay away from any "for dummies" or "in x >>>(hours/days)" books. They can be decent introductory material, but >>>unless you are really really new to programming, you probably wouldn't >>>be getting enough information to justify the cost of the book (and a >>>lot of times they have a lot of bad practices in them) >> Maybe you should try actually reading _Python for Dummies_. ;-) >I haven't read it, maybe I will. I have just noticed that the "for >dummies" books tend to be a bit lacking.
Some are; some aren't. Like any broad and rapid-to-market series, there are plenty of books that are pretty bad. But there are also plenty of good Dummies books -- for example, _Personal Finance for Dummies_. Speaking as the co-author of _Python for Dummies_, one of our goals was to write a book that was both different from the other introductory Python books and managed to match the quality of the best of them. I'm not sure we succeeded in the second part, but I do think we did better than the median, if only because between me and David Goodger (our tech editor), we probably made fewer technical mistakes. ;-) -- Aahz (a@pythoncraft.com) <*> http://www.pythoncraft.com/ "as long as we like the same operating system, things are cool." --piranha
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