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off topic: dillogimp speaks and a pattern emerges


I truly value any help I receive from anyone on this newsgroup.  It's
genuinely courteous and professionally responsible - and for no other
purpose than to teach, support, guide (and learn?).  So it puzzles me when I
see behaviour that, generally speaking, would not be tolerated anywhere by

This will no doubt earn me a slap ... Dillogimp, please allow a moment to
pass before posting.  I don't know your circumstances but it seems you are
under a lot of pressure and perhaps it might be affecting your behaviour.
I've checked over quite a few threads and noticed that you have not offered
any help to anyone and yet you post a large number of requests for help.
The pattern I've observed is not flattering.  An abusive user: all take and
no give.  As professionals we are not helping you if we allow you to
continue this unacceptable behaviour, unchallenged.

Based on what I've seen you appear to have talent.  Perhaps you might have
something positive to contribute.  The only posts you make (that I have
seen) have been to ask (often vague / poorly worded) questions ranging from
esoteric to very complex.  Sometimes, bright people (and I'm prepared to
accept you might be clever) don't always have the best 'people' skills.
This is not specifically a poor stereotype and has been described in the
literature in several disciplines.

The simple truth is that irrespective of how bright you are (or you think
you are) there will always be someone brighter and inappropriate behaviour
is not a substitute for (or an excuse of) empathy.  Not one single person on
this newsgroup owes you anything other than to treat you with professional
courtesy.  Any problem that you present is entirely your problem alone.  Any
assistance you receive is a professional courtesy and must always be treated
as such.  You can disagree but not abuse.  Abuse is an entirely inadequate
excuse for a cogent argument.

IT is completely and utterly, a 'people' oriented field.  Those who don't
master self control miss the world and it will pass them by without
hesitation.  Not one single development in IT has been achieved without an
objective of solving a problem: for people.  If you are unable to relate to
people then you are unable to fully understand their problems.  Your
solution can't help but be incomplete ...  Aside from professionalism, the
trait that I'd suggest you consider developing, is empathy.  It is not
evident in your posts and I accept that internet posts are not the complete
picture of anyone - a sample at best.

Take a look at the stuff (below) that you have written and then think about
how you would feel if someone else posted that to you.  (Especially when all
you were trying to do was help them.)  Would you feel inclined to help that
person - ever again?  Would you feel (justly) offended?  A lot of people
prattle on about their rights (a mantra) while simultaneously ignoring that
they have responsibilities.  As professionals, what we do (or don't do) is
the behaviour that other model: we are the exemplars of the profession.
Aside from professional courtesy we have a responsibility to both hold
ourselves to a high standard and speak out when we feel someone may be
behaving inappropriately.  At some level, bad behaviour by a professional
does reflect poorly on the profession.

If you honestly think that what you have written reflects acceptable
professional behaviour, then perhaps you may have an odd understanding about
your professional obligations and ethics.  Perhaps you posted these things
in anger - I've let a few through that on reflection, I wished had fallen
off the net - but learn from this and do something positive about it.

You might have the brightest flame in the galaxy, but no one will see it if
they keep looking away.  And I'm choosing to look away until you modify your
behaviour and conduct yourself as a true professional.

I wish you the very best in your efforts to get the help you need.

Kindest regards,

[various snippets from Dillogimp posts in response to those who tried to
help him....

Are you a politics? What the hell is this group for? pretending who's
nicer? Do I get to vote?

Is your job to mislead people on this group?

You can always say nothing if you don't want to help. But stop lying
to people.

Do you use scheme to torture yourself?

There is no way I can tell whether you are sincere or not.
Do you have something pertinent to say relating to the issue?

So, I will be the bad guy. What do I care? I can't live for more then
a hundred years on earth.
The purpose of the group is to improve the language-- at least that's
my naive thinking.

BS talk. Use a symbol that's never been used before and rewrite the
lowest few primitives to support that particular symbol.
No code breaking whatsoever. When someone tries to sell scheme, they
say it's tidy clean small easy to figure out, but as soon as someone
says to support a simple feature, it quickly become a code-breaking
problem. Didn't someone once say it only takes seven primitives? So,
it's only tidy clean and easy when you don't have to write the code?
Aynway, I don't support an interpreter so I'm BS talking too.

Is there a "syntaxed" version of amb?
Please read my disaster thread. What exactly do I have to do to get
the code working. I don't want to rewrite my interpreter in CPS and
support call/cc right now. (I don't know how much work that is gonna
take.) Does every one on this planet have to reimplement scheme to get
some magic out of it? aarrrggghhh.

Currently, <#void> and nil does nothing useful. Maybe <#void> should
be interpreted as "absolutely nothing".
Unless you have good technical reason for not doing so.
What do I care? I don't have stake in this anyway.
I can always switch to something easier to write my code with.
The language is to make people's job easier and not to impede or
enforce unreasonable convention.

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