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Tcl-URL! - weekly Tcl news and links (May 30)

    It would be more likely to happen if you were to suggest with a patch
    instead of a vague complaint...  Donal K. Fellows on c.l.t
    Who said I wouldn't ?
    My original post was to rule out a cleaner solution; I hate wasted
    efforts.  Alexandre Ferrieux ending this discussion.

    [R]eflashing one's router requires great presence of mind. - Colin

    Announce kbs system by Rene Zaumseil
    The system can generate [Tclkit] executables and Tcl packages for
    different operating systems.
    Currently tested are Linux, SunOS and Windows (with msys).
    The work is based on the kitgen system and kbs ideas from Jean-Claude
    Wippler. Many thanks.
    Sources are available from

    ActiveState Tcl Dev Kit 4.0 now available
    Create high-quality Tcl executables and deploy to anyone, anywhere, with
    Tcl Dev Kit (TDK) 4.0: the essential toolkit for Tcl programmers.
    TDK 4.0 introduces support for Mac OS X and Solaris x86, support for Tcl
    8.5, and features enhanced support for TEA (Tcl Extension Archive)
    Package Management with a complete suite of tools for creating,
    exporting, managing and using Tcl extensions.
    Get all the details at:

    ANNOUNCE: Tcl/Tk 8.4.15 released
    The Tcl Core Team is pleased to announce the 8.4.15 releases of
    the Tcl dynamic language and the Tk toolkit.  This is the fifteenth
    patch release of Tcl/Tk 8.4.  More details can be found below.  
    We would like to express our gratitude to all those who submit bug
    reports and patches.
    This information is invaluable in enabling us to identify and
    eliminate problems in the core.
    Downloads, various binaries:

ORBI: or what happened on comp.lang.tcl
    "X11 Control Characters" encoding

    Quick question about the event loop
    42 messages , fragments of a Tip, lots of ideas ;-)

    Q on efficiently showing large BLT vectors in tabular format

    subpatterns in Expect regexp and assigning to a variable

    TLS Verification

    .tbc decompiler!
    there ain't no such beasty

    Tcl dot net (Tcl.net, yes microsoft net framework) ? realistic?
    PROPOSAL: Tcl equivalent to .NET interop

TIPX: new, used and discarded Tips
    nothing new here, walk on.

OOTW: Orphan of the week or questions nobody answered yet:
    WANTED: A simple example of the grammar::peg stuff

ATTC: At the Core:
    A[TCLCORE] Tcl through X rays
    a RfVoU ( Request for Verification of Understanding ) turns into
    an interesting discussion and a walk through of bytecompilation.

Thanks to Arjen Markus for his weekly reports on the Wikis:
  Need a delightful little application of no practical importance? Well,
  your Wiki chronicler will explain later on ...

  Looking at Tcl
  - The page which intends to list what features or functionality
    Tcl is missing is old and in need of updating:

  - Here is one good reason for that conclusion: handling directed
    graphs - another delightful little app: <http://wiki.tcl.tk/18129>

  Looking at Tk
  - Object-orientation again ... will the ingenuity of Tclers never end?
    <http://wiki.tcl.tk/18151> and <http://wiki.tcl.tk/18115>

  - And yet another widget to hide the complexity of cooperating widgets:
    "scrodgets" take over scrollbar management for you -

  Looking at graphics and games
  - Remember to visit <http://wiki.tcl.tk/17771> evrty once in a while,
    as new 3D graphics demos become available.

  - Your chronicler is rather proud of Plotchart, his main contribution
    to Tklib. So a gallery was definitely called for!

  - Take the fun out of sudokus and have your computer have a go at
    them: <http://wiki.tcl.tk/17261>

  Looking at a delightful little app
  - Your chronicler never realised this was possible. And if you
    can not easily understand French, just try it.
    <http://wfr.tcl.tk/1443>. Watch the mousy!

Everything Tcl-related you want is probably one or two clicks away in these
    The "Welcome to comp.lang.tcl" message by Andreas Kupries
    comp.lang.tcl is a crucial resource for Tcl practitioners.
    An interesting perspective on its traffic appears at

    The Tcl Developer Site is Tcl's "home base".

    Larry Virden maintains a comp.lang.tcl FAQ launcher.

    The Tcl Developer Xchange is a highly organized resource center
    of documents and software with provisions for individuals to
    maintain references to their own software:
    The TDX sponsor, ActiveState, also keeps info to convince your
    boss Tcl is a good thing

    The Tcl'ers Wiki is a huge, dynamic, collaboratively edited repository
    of documentation, examples, tutorials and pontifications on all things
    For the ideal overview of the topics about Tcl most likely to
    interest a newcomer, see "Arts and Crafts ..."
    There's also a high-quality Wikibook on Tcl:

    ActiveState maintains binaries distribution and development tools
    along with a Cookbook of Tcl recipes

    "La Gazette du Tcleux" is an important monthly publication.

    deli.cio.us presents an intriguing approach to reference commentary.
    It already aggregates quite a bit of Tcl intelligence.

    Cameron Laird tracks several Tcl/Tk references of interest (but
    needs to validate many of the links).

    Years ago, Cetus Links maintained a Tcl/Tk page with verified links

    "Yahoo! Groups" archives comp.lang.tcl.announce posts--even
    though clta itself is dormant.

We're working on more useful archives of past installments.  In the
meantime, an alternative is

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